Tuesday, September 29, 2009

cossacks

Most of you probably know this painting by Ilya Repin and the (most likely apocryphal) story behind it: the Turkish Sultan Mehmed IV wrote a letter to the Zaporozhian Cossacks in which he commanded them to cease and desist any and all attacks on his army and territory and furthermore to submit to his rule. Uncharacteristically, the cossacks responded with a letter of their own. Quite characteristically, the letter is filled with profanities and denigrating comments on the Sultan, his character, combat abilities and personal hygiene and the only thing missing is an obligatory reference to his mother.
Some time ago, I stumbled upon a paper (archived PDF) by Victor Friedman of University of Chicago where he analyzes the textual history of the legend and the linguistic peculiarities of its most popular recension. Now that it's cited on Wikipedia, it's too late for me to brag about the discovery, so just go and read the whole thing. And after you do, you might want to know this: it turns out that the incident was recreated for the 2009 Russian movie "Тарас Бульба". Watching the YouTube clip of the scene in question, you will note that while the imagery is quite faithful to Repin's painting, the language is not what you would expect from a bunch of Ukrainian cossacks. For one, the movie version replaces the Arabic/Turkish loan шайтан by чёрт and omits the reference to Devil's excrements the Sultan's army is allegedly in the habit of consuming ("... чорт сере/викидае, а твое військо пожирае..."). But most importantly, the language is - with some exceptions - quite obviously Modern Russian: Russian такой instead of Ukrainian такий, чёртово [t͡ʃortava] instead of чорта [t͡ʃorta], самого pronounced as [samova] instead of [samoho], ёжа (hedgehog-ACC) instead of їжака and so on. Even though, as Friedman notes, the language of the letter is not exactly pure Ukrainian, but rather a "Late East South South East Slavic" dialect heavily influenced by Russian, it still somewhat grinds my ears to hear sons of the steppe speak Russian. Ah well, it's still a pretty cool scene.

41 comments:

David Marjanović said...

South Slavic?!?

bulbul said...

Oops :) Thanks for pointing it out, correcting immediately.

David Marjanović said...

Oh man, I found this post in real time :-) :-) :-)

finchwench said...

The recension link is a 403 error.

Alexander Anichkin said...

I've listened to the clip. It's not just modern Russian, it is Mid-Russian dialect (Muscovite). They could have tried at least to use South Russian dialect with its soft 'gh', ы (hard y), other drawling and buzzing sounds - closer to Ukrainian, but definitely Russian.
My great-grandparents were Ukraininan cossacks and my grandfather lived in the Kuban region. They spoke Southern Russian which, I think, most cossacks did too.
I think the whole film is on YouTube in 10 min parts.

Nijma said...

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John Cowan said...

Is there really anything surprising in this? If the film had been made in France or America, the participants would have spoken French or American English, perhaps with an unusual accent, more probably not.

Nijma: I'll see your Bulbul Ensemble and raise you three Abdul Abulbul Amirs....

bulbul said...

Is there really anything surprising in this?
A wee bit, yes. I guess I expect two culturally and historically intertwined peoples to, well, know better and have enough respect for each other to avoid that sort of thing.

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