Monday, June 29, 2009

Rome

Unless I crumble from all the work dropped on me this morning, I'll be flying to Rome later this afternoon to attend the 2009 SBL International Meeting. I'll be presenting a paper which has very little to do with linguistics, so, um, you know, here it is (UPDATED) and here's the handout (UPDATED), just in case anybody is interested. It's all very beta, so comments are welcome.

24 comments:

John Cowan said...

I read the paper with interest, and saw that on p. 2 it does indeed present an interesting linguistic question, though unintentionally -- one of English syntax, specifically of ellipsis.

The relevant clause, stripped of its matrix, is "JSol is a compilation of [...] material relating to King Solomon, some of it known previously, other not." Now this use of "other not" is absolutely ungrammatical in English (or so says my intuition -- anyone disagree?), but I can't see why. "Some material ... other material" would be no problem, and yet though the second use of "material" looks like a fine candidate for ellipsis, I just can't swallow it. Just restoring "of it" doesn't help: "other of it not" is as bad as "other not".

Huh. Weird. Anyone understand it?

Mattitiahu said...
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Mattitiahu said...

I think 'others not' might might be more idiomatic?

Perhaps this might be because the part 'some of it [viz. the material]' implies a partitive idea, inwhich there must be 'others' (as a plural idea) from which the 'some' is drawn from?

I haven't read the paper yet, but rest assured I will quite soon, and with great interest. :)

(Sorry, I forgot to add something to that so I just deleted the last comment and reposted the corrected version)

Mattitiahu said...

Well, having read the paper, and despite my lack of knowledge of Medieval Arabic Christian literature and pseudepigrapha in general (besides the very little that I've gleaned second-hand through my explorations in Coptic linguistics) I must say that I quite like it :)

Good luck on the fourth!

David Marjanović said...

"Others not" and "the other not" would work (...just not in this instance, because they wouldn't fit the rest of the sentence).

By comparison with German, I think an article or the... independent form... you know, as in "that's mine"... is necessary, except that there is no plural indefinite article, which is why "others not" works.

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