Sunday, April 08, 2007

easter

Mark 16:6:

Онъ жє глагола имъ: нє ѹжасайтєсѧ: ˀɪ҃иса ищєтє назарѧнина распѧтаго: воста, нѣсть здѣ: сє, мѣсто, идѣжє положиша єго:

Христос воскрес, everyone!

11 comments:

Mihai said...

Воистину воскресе! :)

language said...

So is it воскрес or воскресе? (I know the latter is OCS, but are the two expressions interchangeable in modern (Orthodox) Slavic?

language said...

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bulbul said...

"воскрес" is the traditional pronounciation in Church Slavic as used by my Greek Catholic (Uniat) church and until quite recently, I've never heard of "воскресе". I don't have my grammar of Carpathian (=Ukrainian) Church Slavic with me at the moment, but I'm assuming this is a case where two traditions and redactions of Church Slavic differ. Plus, "Христос воскрес" mostly gets ghits in Ukrainian, whereas "Христос воскресе" shows up in Russian and Bulgarian.

David Marjanović said...

What verb form is it, actually? Something scary like aorist? :-}

BTW, what font are you using? Arial Unicode MS? To my surprise the whole quote displays correctly (in IE 7), except the abbreviation marker thingy is out of place.

bulbul said...

David,

yep, the very one, composite aorist :o) положиша, that's the other scary one, the imperfect (note the tell-tale -ша suffix).
It's either Arial Unicode MS or Lucinda Sans Unicode. Probably the first one, I've been using it more often lately. And the tild doesn't display correctly in FF either. I understand it has something do with less-than-perfect implementation of Cyrillic in Unicode.

David Marjanović said...

Composite?!? Is there a simple one, too? (I have next to no idea of non-Russian Slavic grammar.)

It's not ugly, so it's not Lucida. :-) It looks a lot like Arial, so I gather it's Arial Unicode MS then.

bulbul said...

If I remember my OCS correctly, there are three types of aorist in OCS:

1. asigmatic (i.e. simple)
2. sigmatic (i.e. composite) I
3. sigmatic II

The asigmatic aorist is rather rare, confined to verbs with roots ending in a consonant. And even some of these verbs do not form the asigmatic aorist. The sigmatic aorist I is an inherited PIE form while the sigmatic aorist II is a Slavic innovation.
I'm not really sure how this works in Church Slavic, though, and it's starting to bug me. I'll check as soon as I get back.

Language said...

Actually, I think воскресе is a simple aorist. The "compound" or s-aorist has the endings -съ, -, - in the singular (i.e., the 2nd and 3rd persons have no ending).

bulbul said...

That is true, but in verbs ending in -с, 2nd and 3rd person sg. simple aorist and composite aorist I are the same (нєсти - нєсє / нєсє / нєсє), since stem-final -с assimilates to the sigma. The difference can't be seen here, but it shows up in all other forms, like 1st person sg., where simple aorist = нєсъ while the composite aorist I shows the characteristic lengthening of the stem vowel, i.e. нѣсъ. So I guess we can't really tell...

cjmr said...

He is Risen indeed! Alleluia!

Oh, and I tagged you for a meme.

cheri